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පටුන 1 November 24 1.1 EDITING tables 1.2 How can I lock a page from people other than myself and/or my IP address? 1.3 Showing that I've cleaned up an article 1.4 world of warcraft 1.5 "Edit this page" issue 1.6 Categories in templates 1.7 Is this really wikipedia? 1.8 What's with Northern English Nationality Association of South England? 1.9 PLEASE THIS IS URGET READ NOW!!! 1.10 Hi 1.11 e-mail 1.12 Interpreting policy 1.13 Account Closure 1.14 Searching categories 1.15 Inserting an image 1.16 Image:Einstein_Memorial.jpg 1.17 Default Signature for anons .. .. .. 1.18 can anyone help me 2 November 25 2.1 how do i make my own article? 2.2 Pages are automatically being added to my watchlist 2.3 External Links to Amazon? 2.4 User_talk:Aclinton 2.5 Editing 2.6 My user page was deleted 2.7 WP Fundraising 2.8 i am done 2.9 problems registering as user 2.10 Fictional events 2.11 Sharing a project 2.12 Alumni referencing 2.13 Articles translated from foreign language versions 2.14 translation of infromation from French to English 2.15 Mic Wright 2.16 unfortunate redirect 2.17 move article 2.18 Mailing address 2.19 Writing big numbers 2.20 General Motors Car factory in Ste Therese/Blainville Quebec? 2.21 Captain Robert Riddell of Glenriddel, the history of Friars Carse in Scotland and Robrt Burns 2.22 Person of significance add was deleted 2.23 snausages deletion 2.24 unseen cost of illegal immigration i wish to submit a letter 2.25 last modified 2.26 Keeping my old username 2.27 Adding more information on Something to Sing About page!!! 3 November 26 3.1 problem of format of audio and video files 3.2 Deleting a page I created 3.3 Something to Sing About page!!! 3.4 how 3.5 Renaming an article 3.6 Making a Wikipedia page available offline 3.7 How do I find and edit my Java Script? 3.8 Requesting to delete a page 3.9 Inquiry 3.10 Donation in Indian Rupees 3.11 Offline Editor 3.12 NH Avalanche Hockey 3.13 Using <math> for α in paragraphs 3.14 Create pages in other language 3.15 Upload picture 3.16 Charles Bent (chess) new page. 3.17 Links and piping 3.18 Help on Something to Sing about Page!!! 3.19 Log in problems 3.20 What qualifies as a current sports-related event? 3.21 Email Confirmation 3.22 can not log in 3.23 Article Submission 3.24 IP user vandalism 3.25 question regarding use of publicity photo 3.26 "Proposed" Wikis. 3.27 Fact tag disappearance 3.28 I inserted the name in reverse how do I fix? 3.29 Soliciting a topic 3.30 Instant deletion 3.31 how doyou makea new article about a current event 3.32 Sakis Rouvas article 4 November 27 4.1 Category "abuse" 4.2 Peer Review 4.3 Username 4.4 search 4.5 A page about my company: wanting to do it by the rules 4.6 brain teazer 4.7 used transparent pet

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[සංස්කරණය] November 24

[සංස්කරණය] EDITING tables

I wish to make an alteration to a table that appears on several different but related articles. However, I can find no way to get into it. Nor can I find anything in the Help pages that deals with this concept. Please help. Ted Watson (talk) 00:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like it's a template that is transcluded on different pages. Click "edit this page" on a page where it's displayed and the bottom of the window will have list of transcluded templates, for example Template:Warner Bros. cartoons. You can also look for the right template name inside {{...}} in the source for the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I presume you checked the record of my contributions, as the template you linked in is precisely the one I had in mind. More effort than I expected; well done. However, while the template is listed as "Warner Bros. cartoon characters," and in the appropriate brackets, at the bottom of the edit window for both Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny articles (and I admit that I haven't checked any others), your template link here for it was what I needed. If I should find myself in an analogous position in the future, I now know to put that name in the site's search engine preceded by "Template:", and will do so. Thanks. Not meaning to be offensive, but I believe that this is the first time I've asked a question at the Help Desk and gotten complete satisfaction from the initial response (though certainly every time the situation did get satisfactorily resolved). Maybe I've just been unlucky in the past! Anyway, thanks again. Ted Watson (talk) 16:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and yes, i checked your contributions. I do that a lot at the Help Desk because it often reveals important information for the reply. You can also search templates without knowing the exact name by first clicking the "Search" button, and then checking "Template" (and optionally unchecking "Main") at the bottom of the resulting window, for example giving [1]. By the way, some boxes made by templates have their own links to the template in a corner, for example the two bottom boxes at Warner Bros., but not Template:Warner Bros. cartoons. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] How can I lock a page from people other than myself and/or my IP address?

well people have been vandalizing my articles and my user page so how can I lock a page from people other than my user name and/or my IP address? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kotosb (talk • contribs) 00:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You have to make a request for page protection. -Yamanbaiia (talk) 01:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Note that you are entitled to protection of your user page but as for the articles, they are not "yours", and protection will only be granted if there is a recent pattern of vandalism. There is no protection that would entitle you, and only you, to edit a certain page. There is semi-protection which would not allow any IP users / user's who's accounts are less than 4 days old to edit, and there is Full protection which does not allow anybody to edit, except for Administrators. - Rjd0060 (talk) 01:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Showing that I've cleaned up an article

If I've just cleaned up an article that needs cleanup according to the community portal, how should I inform Wikipedia that I cleaned it up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hostile Amish (talk • contribs) 02:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You can remove the cleanup tag from the article if you feel you have improved an article enough to warrant removal of the tag. NF24^{(radio me!)} 02:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You don't need to inform us about it but you can't write in the article space that you cleaned it up. Tim Q. Wells (talk) 02:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] world of warcraft

I just have a technical question for you. My boys have WORLD OF WARCRAFT at my house, can they play there game at there Dads house, he lives in another home? Or does he have to have his own account?

Thank you, Jackie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.109.171.167 (talk) 02:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

This is for questions about using Wikipedia, please go here. Thanks. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 02:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

• Accounts, like the one for World of Warcraft and Wikipedia are attached to a player. As long as the player can reproduce the right username and password they can use it on any computer that is capable of running the game or site you want to access.- Mgm|^(talk) 10:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] "Edit this page" issue

I've had an account here for more than a year, and have never had an issue like this. For the past week or so, whenever I've clicked on the "edit this page" tab at the top of the page to edit an article, I've been unable to, getting a popup saying:

_______________________________________________
|Do you want to save this file?                |
|                                              |
|  Name: index.php                             |
|  Type: Unknown File Type, 219 bytes          |
|  Form: en.wikipedia.org                      |
|           __________  __________             |
|           |  Save  |  | Cancel |             |
|           ----------  ----------             |
|______________________________________________|

I've never had this problem before, and I have no idea what to do. I can click the "+" tab to create a new section on talk pages with no problem. But I can't click the "edit this page" without getting that popup. Is there anything that I can do? Ksy92003(talk) 03:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Try going to Special:Preferences, the 'editing' tab, and making sure that 'Use external editor by default' is unchecked. Raven4x4x (talk) 05:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

It could also be a browser problem; make sure that you've updated to the latest version. You may also want to check file-related settings (in Windows, for example, Control Panel->Folder Options->File Types), where you may be able to revert changes made by a rogue software program. Nice ASCII drawing, by the way. =P NF24^{(radio me!)} 12:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The "Special:Preferences" change worked. It does somehow amaze me, Raven4x4x, that you were able to identify the issue. I wasn't sure anybody could figure out what was going on. So thanks. I realized that if I did anything under the IP address of my computer that I didn't have that problem, and I remember that several days ago I was looking at the preferences and checked that box just to see what would happen... apparently I found out and didn't even realize it. Thank you so much. That was really starting to bug me to death. And NASCAR Fan, thanks for complimenting my ASCII drawing... I'm actually somewhat good at those, but horrible in real-life on-paper drawings :-) Ksy92003(talk) 14:33, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

If you like ASCII art, you may be interested in List of text editors#ASCII art. I don't know how Raven4x4x solved the problem, but this problem comes up on the Help desk every month or so, so I would suspect it was a matter of recalling the solution. For example, සැකිල්ල:Google custom. --Teratornis (talk) 19:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I've been browsing the help desk for a while, and this problem does come up semi-frequently. I recognised the 'index.php' message. Raven4x4x (talk) 23:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Categories in templates

Suppose I made a deletion template and wanted whatever page it was applied to, I wanted that page to be added in the Pages Nominated for Deletion category. I figured I would just put [[:Category: Pages Nominated for Deletion]] in the template, but it gives me that string literally. How can I do this? 209.81.124.72 (talk) 05:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Write [[Category:Pages Nominated for Deletion]] without ':' (and choose an existing category). If you don't want the template page itself to be in the category then write <includeonly>[[Category:Pages Nominated for Deletion]]</includeonly>. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

And note there is a Wikipedia:Deletion policy with corresponding templates. Don't make your own deletion template without discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Is this really wikipedia?

සැකිල්ල:Resolved VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 11:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Is this really wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Has no brain (talk • contribs) 05:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the domain is wikipedia.org so this is the real thing. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The question is reasonable because Wikipedia has many mirrors and forks, although those I have seen tend to look different than the real one. --Teratornis (talk) 19:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I know it's reasonable. That's why I gave the crucial evidence: wikipedia.org in the domain. A mirror could potentially fake everything else. I haven't seen it attempted, but I have seen other sites make misleading claims about Wikipedia association. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You gave a reasonable answer so I know you know the question is reasonable. I should have been more clear that I was directing my comment at other potential readers who might think the question was unreasonable, lest someone else would feel inclined to chime in with "Of course this is Wikipedia." However, see Pharming - it might be possible for a sufficiently motivated evil genius to hijack the domain name and transfer some users to a bogus site. I have not heard of anybody pharming Wikipedia yet, but I don't hear everything. --Teratornis (talk) 01:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I suppose an evil hacker could also hack some readers browser and make it display a false domain at a fake site, without having to hijack the displayed domain. I don't know whether this has occurred. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] What's with Northern English Nationality Association of South England?

What's with this Northern English Nationality Association of South England article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Has no brain (talk • contribs) 06:01, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

It has now been deleted as patent nonsense. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] PLEASE THIS IS URGET READ NOW!!!

සැකිල්ල:Resolved VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 11:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Ive uploaded a picture to the Matthew Underwood wikipedia page and i dont own the copyright to it please get rid of it for me because i dont know how to pllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeee —Preceding unsigned comment added by IV21GAL (talk • contribs) 06:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. John Reaves 07:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Hi

Hi i am trying to edit the page Steve McClaren but it says "This page is currently semi-protected, and can be edited only by established registered users". How many edits do I need to make to become an established user? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.5.42 (talk) 08:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Pages that are semi-protected "disables editing from anonymous users and registered accounts less than four days old," so you can create an account and wait four days, or make a suggestion of your edit at Talk:Steve McClaren. It seems Talk:Steve McClaren has been semi-protected as well, so you can make a suggestion of your edit here and another user may edit it into the article. --Silver Edge (talk) 08:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You could also use the "requests for significant edits to a protected page", here. Regards, Rudget.talk 14:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk page seems to have been unprotected, you can now make any edit requests there. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 07:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] e-mail

dear sir , when i was creating my account i was in a hurry and forgot to provide my e-mail address . how can provide/change my e-mail address ?? siddharth —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidb252 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Click "My preferences" at the top of the page. Type your e-mail in the "E-mail (optional)" box. NF24^{(radio me!)} 15:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Or just click here. - Rjd0060 (talk) 15:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Interpreting policy

This is with the regards to the MS Explorer article and the accident in the Antarctic. Yesterday evening a blog of a first hand account of the rescue was added to the article, which has since been deleted because an admin believed that it contravened. Although articles should not normally be linked to blogs, this blog provided a unique insight into the atmosphere and events of yesterday morning.

The line of policy that would normally exclude blogs, is line 12 of "Links normally to be avoided" of Wikipedia:External links however the title here is "Links normally to be avoided" rather than "Links to be avoided"; and another line in "Wikipedia:External links" under Links to be considered offers the following "Sites which fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources." I take this to mean that under some circumstances less than reliable sources may be linked to if they offer something unique. Is this one of those cases in which the blog policy could be set aside? KTo288 (talk) 17:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I took a look but was not able to find the specific removal. My question is, was it a blog added to an external links section, or was it a blog linked as a source? If the former, nevermind, move on to the next comment. If the latter, WP:EL is not the policy you should be looking at. The issue is whether the blog constitutes a reliable source. See also Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources and Wikipedia:Reliable source examples.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

It was in the external links section. KTo288 (talk) 18:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

• If the blog was clearly by a researcher involved in the whole thing, then it really doesn't matter it is a blog. Some people believe blogs are de facto unreliable without taking into account the author's identity. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Account Closure

How to close account of Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fznreturns (talk • contribs) 18:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, there is no way to close a Wikipedia account. If you do not want to contribute, scramble your password and remove email, that way, you will be unable to retrieve the password and the account will go stale. Regards, Neranei (talk) 18:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

To comply with the terms under which all contribution are licensed, an account cannot be deleted. Just stop using the account is the easiest thing to do. 87.114.135.129 (talk) 18:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Right to vanish. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Searching categories

I'd like to do a search of articles that are in multiple categories. For example, Category:Stub-Class Ancient Egypt articles and also in Category:Top-importance Ancient Egypt articles. There should be exactly two articles that are in both categories. How do these kinds of searches? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 19:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Go to WP:EIW#Cat, and scroll down to the "Intersection of two categories:" heading. By "a search of articles" do you mean merely to list the titles of articles that are in multiple categories, or to search the text of those articles for key words? --Teratornis (talk) 19:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I entered my previous answer quickly to avoid an edit conflict (common when answering the newest question). The index entry of interest is: m:User:Duesentrieb/CatScan - CatScan is a tool that can do various types of category scans, including intersection (may or may not be using up-to-date version of database). --Teratornis (talk) 19:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. Worked like a charm, thanks. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 19:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Inserting an image

I uploaded my image, but I cannot figure how to incorporate it in the page i want to? Please advise —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakekent (talk • contribs) 19:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Add to the page [[Image:name|thumb|right|caption text]]. See WP:IMAGE for further information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

By the way you need to add an image copyright tag to Image:California prison growth.gif, indicating what license the image is released under. Without a tag the image will be deleted. --teb728 (talk) 20:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Image:Einstein_Memorial.jpg

Image:Einstein_Memorial.jpg was uploaded to Commons and later deleted from Wikipedia as a duplicate of Commons. It was just deleted from Commons as derivative; so the Wikipedia copy should be restored. Is this a good place to request that? If not, where? --teb728 (talk) 20:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

This must be a good place to make your request as it worked:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Default Signature for anons .. .. ..

Why did it change? There's no policy against anons having user pages, so logically there's no reason not to link to an anon user's user page in their signature.. .. ..--172.135.106.105 22:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, it is a pseudo-policy as it is technically impossible for anons to create their userpage due to the software. GDonato (talk) 22:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I could for instance slap a {{helpme}} template on my talk page and ask someone to create a user page for me.. .. .. besides, it's not a software limitation, nor is it policy, it's just the decision of a handful of users that anons can't be trusted to create new pages, even though some of wikipedia's oldest and best developed articles were originally created by anons back in 2002, 2003, and 2004.. .. ..--172.168.226.201 22:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh please, it's not about lack of trust, it's about the fact that most IP addresses don't have user pages, and for the sake of accessibility to the pages needed to be accessed most (i.e. contributions and talk pages), the default signature now links to only the contributions page and the talk page. There is no policy against IP addresses having user pages, and it is completely possible to create for IP addresses to create their own pages. Spebi 22:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that an IP Address will change periodically, so if you create a page under your IP, in 2 weeks, someone else will be using that IP Address, and that user page will belong to that person. To avoid confusion, we recommend you Create an Account. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 22:37, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

By the way, notice that your signature DOES link to your (non-)user page. --teb728 (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Only if I sign manually, otherwise it looks like this .. .. ..--172.135.100.242 (talk) 23:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you aware that you used 3 different IP addresses in this section? (Assuming all 3 are you). If your IP changes every few minutes then a user page seems pointless as I just wrote at User talk:172.168.226.201, but you may already be gone from that IP. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

If I wanted to I could keep it completely static and confine all my posts to one IP. --172.135.135.208 00:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] can anyone help me

i asked about the hard days night movie and no one even helped me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.253.198.153 (talk) 23:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sory to hear that, please can you explain in further detail what you mean? Thanks! —Qst 23:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

If you want to know information about the movie, you may want to ask at the Reference Desk - we're only here to help you use Wikipedia. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict)Well in defence of the people who help here, you did only just ask "hards days night" which is extremely vague putting it bluntly, I suggest if you want to ask a question about the subject in question go to the reference desk, there is a link on the top of the page in red and underlined.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 23:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

To be precise, the help request [2] at #help me again said "a hard days night" and nothing else. One editor asked what you wanted and another gave a link to A Hard Day's Night. It's hard to be more helpful based on that input. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] November 25

[සංස්කරණය] how do i make my own article?

how do i make or type my own article so every one can see it on wiki. this is a really awsome site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Souljagirl6295 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Your first article. Happy wiking! NF24^{(radio me!)} 00:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

But if you thinking of writing an article about yourself, you can't. --teb728 (talk) 01:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Well it's not that you can't create an Autobiography, but doing so is strongly discouraged (see Wikipedia:Autobiography as to why). VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 06:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Pages are automatically being added to my watchlist

I do vandalism reversion and sometimes I notice pages I reverted vandalism on being added to my watchlist automatically. Is their anything I can do to prevent this? Thanks.--Miss Pussy Galore (talk) 00:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you use twinkle, then there is a configuration available that stops this. If you are just doing it manually, then you must set your preferences to where it does not add pages by default. I (talk) 00:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] External Links to Amazon?

Is it desireable to link pages of books and DVDs to Amazon? I look in Wikipedia if I want to know more about a book (customer ratings are not neutral enough in my opinion) and it would be convenient for users and probably profitable for Wikipedia.

Generally speaking, Wikipedia does not link to commercial sites. Please see WP:EXT for more information. Jeffpw (talk) 00:26, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:ISBN. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• If ISBNs are properly linked they already link to every possible site imaginable. Linking to Amazon would give them an unfair advantage over all the other booksellers, so that is not desireable. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] User_talk:Aclinton

SHOCKING!--144.82.106.145 (talk) 00:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what your question is about, could you please clarify? VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 06:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I think hes referring the fact that he was editing for a "newspaper" to see how fast that it would get reverted. Peachey88 ^{(Talk Page | Contribs)} 07:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

In fact, 144.82.106.145 is so shocked he goes on a vandalism spree himself before being blocked. Perhaps this vandalism by journalists is only encouraging other vandals. Astronaut (talk) 20:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Editing

How do you make those table like things on the side of cities with their population... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Write me (talk • contribs) 02:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

You can for example use {{Infobox Settlement}}. There are other possibilities like many country specific infoboxes in Category:City infobox templates. You can see what an existing article did by clicking "edit this page" and looking at the source. The bottom of the window will have links to used templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] My user page was deleted

I took the time to create a user page. There was a lot of content put on it. My user page was DAnglFrd. I saved my last changes and it logged me out, when i logged back in everything was gone. There was nothing in the deletion log. I was just wondering what happened.

Fred —Preceding unsigned comment added by DAnglFrd (talk • contribs) 02:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

That would be the gremlins. Seriously, that is very frustrating but I checked the deletion log and no one deleted the page; it never saved. Always make it a habit of highlighting your text and copying it before clicking save and this will never happen. For really long posts or articles, it's advisable to save it for sure to a document on your computer. As for why you were logged out, that could be many things. I'm no computer expert but I can tell you they do some pretty random things at times. In any case, make sure your computer is accepting cookies, and make sure you click "remember me" when you log in. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I don’t know why you were logged out. But the fact that you were logged out explains why your page was not saved, for you can’t create a page unless you are logged in.

I’m sorry you lost your text. In addition to Fuhghettaboutit’s suggestions, you might have been able to recover your text after the logout if you had pressed the Back button of your browser. (If you had previewed your text that is—this doesn’t work for me unless I preview.) --teb728 (talk) 06:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] WP Fundraising

Hi, i just wanted to comment on WP fundraising. Sure the site is great and all but to say that without donations there would be no WP is a bit far fetched in my opinion. At worst if WP didn't have enough funds to operate then it would probably get bought out and be turned into a profit making business through ad revenue. So really you should say "donate to WP today to keep it an ad free zone". That is all. --79.72.5.42 (talk) 02:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• How can someone "buy out" Wikipedia? Not only would it go against all the foundation's principles, it would be a great problem for our non-profit status and could potentially lead to lawsuits from people who donated in the past. Also, there is no company that is "in" in the sense of owning Wikipedia stock or part of the organization, so no company is in the position to buy the foundation out. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] i am done

sombody please help me with a hard days night! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.253.198.153 (talk) 03:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

We have attempted to help. Replied on user talk. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] problems registering as user

my IP address appears to be blocked. I have a home wireless network protected with a WEP and am sure that no other "casual" users apart from my direct family would be able to access the network. However, I edited two entries on the "House of Sorgo" page because that is my family, what is written on the page covers a minor branch of the family - anyhow please let me know how to register in order to update information, and also please advise how to add pictures so that the modern coat-of-arms, and family portraits to match the historical entries can be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.120.68.69 (talk) 03:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are able to edit this page, your account is not blocked. For more information on creating an account, see here. I don't see that you've made any edits to the page at House of Sorgo, so perhaps you didn't save the page. For more information there, see Help:Editing. I hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I notice that the last two edits to House of Sorgo were from IPs 192.169.41.47 and 203.120.68.66, both different from the 203.120.68.69 you used above. So it looks like your ISP (Pacific Internet?) constantly changes your IP. I suspect that may be your problem. Perhaps someone else can confirm and if so tell you how to deal with the situation. --teb728 (talk) 05:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Fictional events

I added "The Great Silence Epidemic" from The Phantom Tollbooth to 1712 in literature under a ===Fictional Events=== heading and had it removed with a comment "real-world events only." I wasn't sure if that was just one editor's opinion or if there was a guideline on this beyond the more general rule not to write in an in-universe style. So I posted a query at WP:BOOKS back in July and got no responses whatsoever.

Any thoughts on how I could best work to establish a consensus on this? Matchups (talk) 04:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with its removal. It is indiscriminate information in my opinion, and trivia. The title, the context, the way encyclopedias work, begs real events; things that actually ocurred in 1712, and not any thing at all which has literature and 1712 in common. It is akin to an almanac entry in which we would never expect to find a random tidbit about a fictional listing. And we would be opening up the doors to every fictional event that can be placed in any particular year. Then there's the larger context of weight. That article starts with the text "The year 1712 in literature involved some significant events" (emphasis added). Anything and everything that ocurred in 1712 is not fair game. Likewise, the Phantom Tollbooth is a wonderful book and very notable. A segment from it is very likely not and shouldn't, by extension, be listed in that article even if fictional events were proper.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• The editor was indeed correct. You probably misunderstood the page title. If we were to include all sorts of fictional events in such articles they would become impossible to maintain. "in literature" means the page is for events about literature in the real world. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:05, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the others. Category:Fictional timelines has some timelimes for well-known fictional universes but I don't think an isolated book should get an article for it's timeline. There is no Fictional events in 1712, and Timeline of fictional historical events was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of fictional historical events. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

සැකිල්ල:Resolved Thanks, all. Although I was hoping for a different answer, I'm glad to get some answer so I can move on and contribute in more permissible ways. Matchups (talk) 13:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Sharing a project

How can Share my project with Wikipedia?

I have few pages in constuction (I am doing) for Fruit Trees: How to Improve Trees and Grapevines, To Better and Faster grow. How to graft then with different kind of grafting, I have Pictures and Designs. How to Care Trees, Grapvines.Some of these cannot be found in Books, or see in TV.!

So for me it is inpossible to understand all your Rules.! But if some one want to help me, I think these are impotant to Share for Amateurs and Students, even to be learned in Schools, or Share in Developing Countries.?

I even can find Wikipedia e-mail to ask them, if they want to put in Web site.

Thank you

Koteli

24 November 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.92.183 (talk) 04:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

The pages at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article should have most of the information you need. Before you begin, please carefully read through our policies and guidelines on notability, citing reliable sources for verification, neutrality, and formatting and article layout, where many new users commonly make mistakes. You may also want to consider checking out what Wikipedia is not, the deletion policy and criteria for speedy deletion so you know specifically what to avoid when writing your article. I hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

In addition to that, also notice that you should not post articles of your original research. Such articles or information will be promptly deleted or reverted and also read WP:V carefully. DSachan (talk) 05:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not sure how the verifiability rules are in WikiBooks, but the titles of your articles suggest they are better suited for WikiBooks than for Wikipedia. Perhaps WikiHow is another suitable outlet. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Alumni referencing

I notice a lot of educational institutions list notable alumni sections and it got me wondering about the technical aspect of referencing each individual alumnus. Is there a commonly accepted way of doing this? If so could you provide an example from WP? Many Thanks --Jamesmh2006 05:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

As a rule, we only list those alumni who are notable and have existing articles on Wikipedia. We do not list all alumni from any given university or other institution, and doing so would not only require a massive technical overhaul but also (most likely) violate a few privacy laws. If there is someone notable who does have an article or is very likely to have a substantial article created about them in the near future, you are welcome to add them to the list by adding the respective page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Articles translated from foreign language versions

I need a third opinion.

If an article is translated from the foreign language version, it has to be listed on the bottom of the page, hasn't it? Seven (talk) 06:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• What does Wikipedia:Translation say? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:01, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

It says nothing. Wikipedia talk:Translation has something though.

Copyrights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Translation#Copyrights Seven (talk) 11:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

The suggestion at your last link (putting something to the effect of "translated from the xx-language wikipedia article xxxx" into the edit summary) is a good idea. This puts the translation notice in the article history for anyone interested to see. Putting a translation notice in the body of the article doesn’t make sense, for the entire translation might be replaced as the article evolves. --teb728 (talk) 23:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

In the case of an editor neglecting to mention that he translated an article from a foreign language version, is there a standard procedure to correct the problem? Seven (talk) 00:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't know about a standard procedure. But you could make a dummy edit with an edit summary like “this page appears to be translated from the xx-language wikipedia article xxxx”. --teb728 t c 22:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] translation of infromation from French to English

i would like to translate articles from the French wikipedia section to English. can i do it? i am a French professor living in India. at Present I am doing my Ph.D. in French literature. i also hold a Master's Degree in English. also why there are no wikipedia sites in Indian Languages? could you answer me please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.11.44.177 (talk) 07:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you might want to check out this page: Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English. Of course Wikipedia is glad to accept your offer. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 07:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

There are Wikipedias in Telugu, Hindi, Marathi, Tamil, and many other languages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangemike (talk • contribs) 07:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello, we would be glad if you help us. For your information, there are existing wikipedias in many indian languages like Hindi, Assamese, Sanskrit, Punjabi, Marathi, Tamil, Kannada, Gujarati, Bengali, Malayalam, Urdu, Telugu, Pali and Kashmiri. The only problem is the lack of contributors in those wikipedias and thus lack of maintenance and lack of good content. If you want to contribute here, you may want to open an account first and then start doing your work. Though you have to remain within the guidelines of wikipedia while developing the articles. Hope it helped. DSachan (talk) 07:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

See List of Wikipedias for the languages we cover. You are now viewing the English Wikipedia, which is the largest, and one of the best-developed, and thus more likely to show up in search engines and so on. To learn about organized translation activities at the Wikipedias, see: WP:EIW#Transl, and Wikipedia:WikiProject France may have information about translating articles from the French Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Mic Wright

The article 'Mic Wright' has been flagged with an autobiography warning.

This is not the case - the article has been written by the subject's father - so is, by definition, a biography and, should not contravene any of Wikipedias's rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmike (talk • contribs) 08:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• That probably happened because the article failed style guidelines. It contained several instances of promotional and flowery language and opinions (like: "After cutting his teeth on... he got the opportunity to move..." and "his witty style".). - Mgm|^(talk) 10:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

My concern is WP:Note, whether this article follows it. Though I am not sure. DSachan (talk) 10:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

See WP:PEACOCK for an explanation of what promotional language is, and why it does not belong in an encyclopedia. Most people write with promotional language most of the time, so learning how to write objectively enough for an encyclopedia takes time. It's easier to write our way about topics one does not have a personal stake in. --Teratornis (talk) 13:48, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

If the article was written by the subject's father, there is a clear conflict of interest. Perhaps if Mic Wright is notable enough, then other people who are aware of his work would contribute to the article. Astronaut (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] unfortunate redirect

admin, i accidently redirected my page created on 2:39 PM 25/11/2007 with user name SAMK SRS on MBCET, CROSSROADS to an older page of Mbcet. can you help me remove the redirection. Its important.Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SAMK SRS (talk • contribs) 09:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I undid your unintended edit.--teb728 (talk) 09:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

There probably should not be two articles on the same subject: Mar Baselios College of Engineering and Technology and M.B.C.E.T. --teb728 (talk) 09:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] move article

සැකිල්ල:Resolved Please move BAFTA Award for best editing to BAFTA Award for Best Editing, see British Academy of Film and Television Arts. Thanks --Steve —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.116.178 (talk) 09:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Great! --89.247.116.178 (talk) 14:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Mailing address

I want to contribute information WITH DOCUMENTATION. What is your USPS mailing addrtess? What do I do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.65.73.100 (talk) 10:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but current contact information for the foundation can be found via the Contact Wikipedia link in your sidebar. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

If you want to contribute to an article, you don't mail your contributions in. See Wikipedia:Introduction or Wikipedia:How to edit a page for some information on how to make contributions. Raven4x4x (talk) 11:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Article content should be verifiable through published reliable sources. Those sources can be cited. If you have unpublished information then it should not be added to Wikipedia and there is no reason to send paper documentation for it to Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Writing big numbers

සැකිල්ල:Resolved I'm not sure what's the Wikipedia policy here:

3,000 = three thousand

6,000,000 = six million

9,000,000,000 = nine (?)

12,000,000,000,000 = twelve (?)

15,000,000,000,000,000 = fifteen (?)

18,000,000,000,000,000,000 = eighteen (?) Admiral Norton ^(talk) 10:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Page on long and short scales might be helpful. DSachan (talk) 10:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Also MOS:NUM, MOS:NUM#Numbers in particular. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 13:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] General Motors Car factory in Ste Therese/Blainville Quebec?

Can't find a thing. Anybody? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.18.105.119 (talk) 14:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not suite sure what you are seeking. From our article, Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec: "Until 2002, when General Motors shut its doors, it was also the home of the only Canadian automobile assembly plant outside of Ontario"--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

And there are sources in a Google search.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Captain Robert Riddell of Glenriddel, the history of Friars Carse in Scotland and Robrt Burns

Why is there no proper article on this very important subject?

Friars Carse started as a monasic cell belonging to Melrose Abbey. In the 15th century it was granted to the Kirkpatricks of neighbouring Ellisland (the property later farmed by Robert Burns). From them it passed to the Maxwells and then, in the 18th century, to the Riddells. The Kirkpatricks built a tower-house on the site in the late 16th century(illustrated by Francis Grose and Adam Cardonnel). This was demolished by Captain Robert Riddell in 1772 and replaced by a modern house, which in turn is now incorporated in a large baronial mansion of the 19th century. It is now a country house hotel (see website).

Apart from its history, the principal interest is that Robert Burns, the famous Scottish poet, was a close friend of Robert Riddell and a frequent visitor at Friars Carse. He used to sit in The Hermitage, a small hut on the estate, and wrote some of his poetry there. He had a key. It was at the same time that the famous antiquary, Captain Francis Grose, stayed at Friars Carse, and the three spent many an hour together. At the request of Burns, Grose included the old kirk at Alloway in his 'Antiquities of Scotland' (1789-91), on condition that Burns wrote a poem for the volume. The result was 'Tam O'Shanter', one of Burns finest and most famous poems.

Alastair Maxwell-Irving, FSA, Telford House, Blairlogie, Stirling, FK9 5PX, Scotland —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.7.201 (talk) 16:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

People without a Wikipedia account can suggest articles at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. If you do then please include evidence that the subject satisifies Wikipedia:Notability (see WP:BIO for biographies), and reliable sources to the given information. Most suggestions are not accepted. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

not accepted because they lack that information. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Person of significance add was deleted

How do I start a page about a person of significance (world champion professional athlete) recognized by the Smithsonian Institution? I linked a new page from his sponsor page and all info was deleted. Please assist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynergetic (talk • contribs) 19:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I am assuming you are referring to a skateboarder. You need to create an article that sticks to the facts and cites each fact with a reliable resource. For an example on a similar topic, see Nude Bowl. There is almost nothing reliable on the Internet, but it is cited from many different sources and sticks only to the facts. So, the article survived a nomination for deletion. -- kainaw™ 19:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] snausages deletion

to prefix: i didn't write the snausages page, and i don't have any particular affection or nostalgia for snausages. i don't even have a dog.

however, several months ago i found the page after having a conversation that somehow wound its way to the 1980s dog treats. there was some piece of information (i can't even remember now what it was) that seemed in desperate need of a source. i put a note on the talk page asking for a source for that fact. i just looked at the page again to see if there'd been a source added.

and the snausages page had been deleted.

here's the note: 09:28, 24 October 2007 Anthony Appleyard (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Snausages" ‎ (content was: '==Importance (?)==I think the importance is mostly pop-cultural and nostalgic, at least for the generation of Americans exposed to the meme-ic Snocra...')

now i'm sure Anthony Appleyard is a well-intentioned editor, and i tend to agree with him regarding the importance of snausages. but is it really an editor's place to make a decision about importance? is "importance" an acceptable criterion for deletion? doesn't that fly in the face of the whole notion of the "long tail" and all of the stuff that makes this wikipedia so good?

when i found that page several months ago, i was heartened to know that the wikipedia had grown so thorough that EVEN SNAUSAGES had a page. if individual wikipedia editors get to be "importance" police, then isn't something lost? doesn't this become some form of elitism? i know that the hierarchical structure of the wikipedia is hardly anarchic at this point, and that there is some degree of power and discretion built in, but wasn't that power and discretion supposed to be used for objective editing? isn't choosing what is important and what is not important thoroughly subjective?

in the case of snausages, yes, most of us can agree that they are probably not so important. still, i'd like to see that page there. as a longtime wikipedia reader and fan, i would be incredibly disappointed to learn that the mission has evolved to the point where a small percentage of the population is making decisions on what the rest of us should find important. assuming you're not running out of server space, what harm is it having a snausages page? just like with first amendment law (here in the U.S.), we need to protect the speech that we don't think is necessary in order to set a precedent for the speech that we do think is necessary.

i'm sorry for the rambly comment/question here, and, perhaps, for having missed a larger change in the wikipedia's mission, but i sincerely hope that you will reconsider the "importance" criterion for deletions. the role of editors should be to promote objectivity and the neutral point of view, to prevent vandalism, and to clarify the prose of the articles. it should not be their role to determine what we should and shouldn't be allowed to waste our time with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conflationary (talk • contribs)

Actually, the page has been deleted twice: [4] [5], and so has the alternate title, Snausage. Anthony's reason is clear: "04:28, October 24, 2007 Anthony Appleyard (Talk | contribs) deleted "Snausages" (content was: '{{db-spam}}{{Unreferenced}} Snocrates, mascot for Snausages since 1984.Snausages are ...')" Thus, the reason it was deleted was it cited no references, and was written like an advertisement, rather than an encyclopedia article. It is possible that an article could be created about the subject, if proper sources were found and cited per the manual of style, but ultimately, Wikipedia is a historical project, and the importance of such a thing as a dog food, could be questioned by some. I have no real opinion on the article personally, but Anthony was operating under the guidelines and policies of administrators, by deleting an article that did not conform to Wikipedia's standards with regards to importance. Ariel♥Gold 19:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the reply. i'm in complete agreement that the article needed sourcing (which is why my only involvement in it was to request sourcing on its talk page). wouldn't a better way to get sourcing be to strip out the unsourced claims and make the article a stub? deleting it discourages further contribution. some articles do get to be stubs while awaiting further contribution; articles deemed "unimportant" apparently do not. that brings us back to my original concern, that this article was deleted because of someone's perception of its importance. i don't want to debate whether snausages specifically are important (nor would this seem the place for that debate), or even whether advertisements themselves are historically and culturally important (i think they are), but i do want to raise the issue of the danger of letting individual editors decide what is important. the notability page you've linked discusses (particularly in footnote 2) issues of importance/unimportance, but the documents that page references as guidelines -- What Wikipedia is not, Five pillars -- do not explicitly talk about the importance/unimportance disctinction or who gets to make that decision. seems like it might be a de facto policy that has started up for practical reasons. while it may seem practical to have editors strip out "unimportant" articles, a select few choosing what is worthy of people's time is worrisome. why not just clear out the text and turn the article into a stub?--Conflationary (talk) 20:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome to take the issue to deletion review, but rest assured that administrators do not just delete articles because they personally think they are "unimportant", there is a specific set of criteria, (linked in the pages above) involved, and the notability criteria differ from article to article, based on subject matter. I would also like to note, that Anthony's deletion summary does not contain the word "importance", and I'm unsure where your copy/paste is from, but the deletion log I linked above shows the deletion summary and reason. Administrators are chosen in part because of their knowledge of policy and guidelines, and this is not simply "some random editor" choosing to delete an article they don't personally think is important. Editors cannot delete articles (although administrators are also editors, of course). Take a look at requests for adminship to see the discussions involved in becoming an administrator, and you can also ask Anthony directly on his talk page, to discuss the deletion with you. You could also choose to work on the article in your userspace, such as User:Conflationary/sandbox, and once you feel it is ready, ask Anthony, or another administrator to review it to be sure it would not be deleted. Ariel♥Gold 20:41, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

again, i appreciate the reply. but i'm not sure i've made my point clear. i don't care about snausages. i don't want to write the snausages page. i'm sure that anthony is eminently qualified and, as i said above, well-intentioned. i'm sure that every editor and every admin here is great, and i know that keeping vandalism clean and point of view neutral is no small task on a project this huge. but i do have an issue with any editor or administrator -- no matter how qualified, experienced, insightful or well-educated -- choosing what is and isn't notable. yes, there are times when the distinction is easy, as with autobiographies, but as much as you want to think that what distinguishes notable from non-notable is always black and white, it most certainly is not. i very much enjoy the wikipedia, and i was thrilled to see that there was a snausages page, specifically BECAUSE i didn't care about it and it seemed something that wouldn't have an entry in britannica, precisely because of the elitism inherent in having an editorial hierarchy. i'm happy to contribute to the wikipedia when and as i have time (which i've done sporadically without a login since 2003), but this isn't a request to work on a pet page; this is a request for the admins and editors to uphold the five pillars of wikipedia, which do not, to my knowledge, include making judgment calls on what is and isn't important. (incidentally, the note that i pasted into my original message is what regular users see when they click on the deletion log for the snausages page.) one day this will be a better encyclopedia for all of your efforts, especially if you use your power to make user contributions better without discouraging them. deleting pages where the argument for them being non-notable is tenuous at best is not going to encourage anyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conflationary (talk • contribs) 21:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Let me clear something up: The "importance" line you saw is from the article's talk page, [6], and it was a topic posted by someone else, not Anthony, but talk pages are deleted when articles are deleted. The article itself, as seen again, here and here was deleted for valid, standard reasons, as WP:SPAM (for the latest deletion). What you clicked on was the discussion page, where editors discuss the article, and evidently someone, at some point, had posted a topic that was titled "importance". When a page is deleted, the first few things in the page are shown in the summary. Please understand that this has nothing to do with the reason the article itself was deleted, and that again, administrators delete based on specific policy and criteria, not on what they personally feel is important, and if the issue is disagreed with, deletion review exists. I understand you aren't looking for a pet project, my suggestion was just a suggestion, but I think perhaps you feel that administrators delete just on their own opinions, when in fact, the process of deletion is governed by policy, and administrators delete based on the deletion criteria. I hope that helps clear up this "importance" issue! Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 21:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

good to know that's from a discussion and not the explicit reason for the deletion. of course, the process that admins use does eventually get to an issue of deciding importance. that's represented by point 7 in the article section of the deletion criteria you've cited, as well as the tricky issue of "notability," which is substantially similar to "importance." as the first footnote of the notability page makes clear, it's impossible to disprove notability. ultimately, then, interpreting the criteria for deletion involves judgment calls by admins. as i've mentioned previously, i think that discretion is dangerous. at any rate, thanks for your patience with the issue. hopefully the defining criteria for notability (which functions as a criterion for deletion) will end up getting defined more precisely as it relates to the underlying question of "importance," which is fundamentally a subjective issue no matter how much procedure is wrapped around it.--Conflationary (talk) 23:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] unseen cost of illegal immigration i wish to submit a letter

Recently I have received numerous phone calls regarding the purchasing of local papers. I do not beleive them to be informative when forming an opinion on illegal immigration. To many of us this is the biggest issue facing America today, yet you fail to put fourth any information regarding the cost to communities locally or nationally. How much effect does this have on property taxes in lower income neighborhoods were the illegals reside? How does this effect the wages of local population or the cost to rent an apartment? What effect does this have on the black community who they are in direct competition with. The American labor force feels the impact caused by cheap illegal workers. We only wish to create a balance and control this run away train. Send the trouble makers home, no guest worker program. So no I do not want your papers. Thank you Mike rogersZise (talk)--Zise (talk) 20:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but this page is for help using the online encyclopedia, Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with your local newspapers or the phone calls you have been receiving.

As for your "no guest worker" rant, perhaps you would like to consider that the costs that so concern you are probably covered by their income tax and sales tax they pay. These immigrant workers are the same people that serve your coffee for minimum wage, stock the shelves for minimum wage, mow your lawn for minimum wage, and so on. Would you do that for under $7 an hour and still be able to support your family?

Astronaut (talk) 21:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

As much as I would agree with your views, answering his trolling only incites unnecessary discussion on the topic. Inform him that this is not the place for him to disseeminate his views, WP:DENY and move on. Thanks, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 22:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I was only seeking to balance somthing clearly POV. But I also see your point and I did ponder if my comment might invite further unnecessary discussion. Won't happen again now I know there's a policy. Astronaut (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

On the Help desk, from time to time we get questions which only make sense if we hypothesize that the questioners read an article on Wikipedia that was about something (such as a newspaper), and they mistook Wikipedia as somehow being affiliated with that something. In a way, that's kind of a compliment, that the Wikipedia article about an organization can sometimes be more visible and accessible than the organization's own site. But now the question has me wondering: if the low wages of illegal aliens are causing problems, I wonder what effect the free labor we donate to Wikipedia is having? Perhaps the folks over at Encyclopedia Britannica could find common cause with Zise, and create a united front opposing free trade. Maybe they could get Bill Gates to join them in a rearguard action against the entire Open source movement. At least with illegals, you have to pay them to get them to work. Wikipedia somehow gets us to work for nothing. I wish I could think of a way to get people to mow my lawn and paint my house for free. Clearly, I am far less intelligent than Jimbo Wales. As far as a little off-topic discussion goes, it's fun, and if Wikipedia isn't fun, we will leave, and then there is no Wikipedia. Back to the original "question," I believe the following accusation must be incorrect, when applied to Wikipedia (which may not be what the questioner intended, but here we are so let's roll with it):

• "you fail to put fourth [sic] any information regarding the cost to communities locally or nationally"

Wikipedia contains so much information that it's hard to imagine we wouldn't have something about the economic impact of illegal immigration. My advice to Zise is to read Help:Search and learn about how to find information on Wikipedia. There, that was somewhat back to our putative topic of using Wikipedia. Also see robotics, telerobotics, offshoring, and technological singularity for some possible changes to the economic "game rules" which may replace cheap human labor with even cheaper machine labor, and thus eliminate the incentive for illegal immigration in the future. --Teratornis (talk) 00:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] last modified

Please please please ((helpme)) i really need this now asap!!! when was the wikipedia last modified and who did it? please help me!! I need this in the next 10 minutes or so. ((helpme))!!! 216.158.164.2 (talk) 20:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• Go to Recent changes page. Try pressing reload key in your browser and you will see that wikipedia is constantly being modified. So, your answer will depend on when you hit the repload key last time. I hope I understood your question correctly. DSachan (talk) 20:26, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

(conflict) :See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. As for last modified, the date of the last edit is on the bottom of all pages. NF24^{(radio me!)} 20:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

A way to learn who made the last edit to a page (and also when) is to click on the History tab. The top line is the last edit. --teb728 (talk) 21:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• NF24 is right though. If you need to cite Wikipedia, then looking at the history won't help you. Since Wikipedia is constantly changing, attributing the article to the last editor would be woefully incorrect. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

If you (the questioner) want to know who added a particular passage in an article, see WikiBlame. If the constantly-changing nature of a Wikipedia article is a problem, that's why we have permanent links ("permanent" as long as Wikipedia keeps running, and the article does not get deleted). --Teratornis (talk) 00:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Keeping my old username

I posted some information as "Wikiups" some time ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=N-Nitrosodimethylamine&action=history

(cur) (last) 21:19, 4 February 2007 Wikiups (Talk | contribs) (undo)

(cur) (last) 21:01, 4 February 2007 Wikiups (Talk | contribs) (undo)

(cur) (last) 21:00, 4 February 2007 Wikiups (Talk | contribs) (undo)

I cannot remember my login password and it looks like my login information does not have my email address. I like my username and would like to keep it. Is there any way to do this?

Cheers, Wikiups

Oh dear. I don't think there's anything we can do at this point. NF24^{(radio me!)} 00:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Adding more information on Something to Sing About page!!!

I need some help. I want to add more information on Something to Sing About page like Plot Summary, Trivia, Cast, Awards & nominations, etc. What can I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bamgermany2000 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, first off, do not add trivia. It is prohibited per the Manual of Style. Next, click "edit this page" at the top of the page. There you can add things like summaries and cast. Be sure to cite your sources. Since it's a film, IMDb is a good place to start. Lastly, don't be afraid to make changes! You generally don't have to ask permission to edit. Happy wiking! NF24^{(radio me!)} 00:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] November 26

[සංස්කරණය] problem of format of audio and video files

Hello, this is one poor guy, need your help badly....! coz the format of all the audio and video files is some kid "ogg" and on simple windows media player it doesnot run... we are here for study in cuba, and here the internet is fully restricted' except some sites like wikipedia... now i yearn to learn spanish, there is enough material for begginers in wikibooks' learn french catagory, but the main problem with the french is its pronunciation. here i cant download the extra codecs to listen the audio files given in content. plz do change the format,compatible to simple windows media player so that this poor guy could be able to fullfill his innocent wish. Please.....! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.222.140 (talk) 00:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you download VLC media player? That should play the ogg files. It's interesting that Cuba does not restrict Wikipedia, when China does. --Teratornis (talk) 00:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• You should check the file info page. There is a Java program that allows playing such files directly from your browser. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Deleting a page I created

I would like to delete a page I created. How do I do so? There is no "edit" above the stub, only over the external links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blairtin (talk • contribs) 00:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are the only substantial contributor then you can place {{db-author}} on the page. Click "edit this page" at the top to edit the whole page. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Presumably you're talking about the article Blair Tindall: at least seven other editors have contributed to this article since you created it. If you yourself are Blair Tindall, I do want to caution you about our rules regarding conflict of interest and autobiography on Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Something to Sing About page!!!

How am I doing with Something to Sing About (2000) page? is there any changes that need to be done? If so, can you fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bamgermany2000 (talk • contribs) 01:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at the New Contributor's Help Page, where experienced editors regularly look over new creations and provide advice for improvement. We're only here to help you use Wikipedia, although from what I can tell, it's off to a good start. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] how

සැකිල්ල:Resolved VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 04:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC) ::I would think so. Dr.K. (talk) 04:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

how do u spell sertain —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.229.208.198 (talk) 03:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

certain. Dr.K. (talk) 03:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Renaming an article

සැකිල්ල:Resolved Moved in [7]. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC) Hello,

Is there a method to rename an article? I inadvertently used a lower case letter for a persons name.

Thank you,

Steven Miranda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.62.10 (talk) 03:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you "move this page". But you can only do it if you're logged in, and only if your login has "aged" sufficiently. If you can't, simply list the page name here (or at Wikipedia:Requested moves) and someone will move it for you. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Making a Wikipedia page available offline

I expanded a Wikipedia stub with new material, text and images. I am using Windows XP home edition with SP2. How can I tell Internet Explorere V7.0 to make this page available offline? The page does contain a couple of links.--Aernyes (talk) 03:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Your question is unclear. What do you mean by "make a page available offline"? --Orange Mike | Talk 03:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Go to the Tools menu and check Menu Bar. In the menu bar click file and choose Work offline from the drop down menu. Dr.K. (talk) 04:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

According to IE7 help: offline viewing is one of the features removed from IE7, but you can save a webpage as a web archive. I think that is what you want. Click Page -> Save As and set Save as type to Web Archive. --teb728 (talk) 04:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

My IE7 version has a fully functioning Work-offline function. No problems here. Dr.K. (talk) 12:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

“Working offline” means working from the cache. IE6 had an additional feature called “make available offline,” whereby the content of certain favorites would be automatically cached (without one’s visiting them) for offline viewing. This feature was discontinued in IE7. --teb728 t c 19:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] How do I find and edit my Java Script?

සැකිල්ල:Resolved VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 04:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC) I want to add the popups script but I don't know how to find my Javea Script. I looked at everything in My Preferences but could not find it. - mbeychok (talk) 04:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Requesting to delete a page

What is the code to request to delete a page that you created. (Such as a User Sub-Page)

I'm pretty sure there is one, I can remember seeing it. DTGardner (talk) 04:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

{{db-userreq}} for userpages or {{db-author}} for other pages Mr.Z-man 04:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Inquiry

Hello, What is the UK's independence date? Britain's? How am I going to see your response since I can't provide my e-mail address? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.16.132 (talk) 05:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi! First question: As far as I know, Britain doesn't have an independence day, certainly not in the same way that America or India does since Britain was never a colony or territory of another nation. There is St George's Day which is England's national day; other parts of the United Kingdom have their own national days. Second question, questions are answered on this page. I will also leave a message on your talk page. Bonus answer: this page is actually for asking questions about Wikipedia. General knowledge questions will get a better response at the Reference desk. Thanks! -- Kateshortforbob 09:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Donation in Indian Rupees

I would like to donate some money in INR. For God's sake, provide a local account in India where I can freely remit the money. Your paypal, moneybooker are of no use. If you have a local account, I can instruct my banker to remit money. I think so many others like me in India who want to donate are frustrated. Have agency arrangement with some Intl. Bank like Citi Bank or HSBC. Please do something about this.

thanks

pv —Preceding unsigned comment added by Palaparthivr (talk • contribs) 09:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't know if this will be of any use, but you can directly deposit into Wikimedia's bank account (click "direct deposit" on the donate page) or mail a check ("check (by mail)"). NF24^{(radio me!)} 11:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Offline Editor

Anyone know of an offline edit program, akin to 'Frontpage' for Wiki software? So one could edit or create an article, and save it on their side(though still seeing the all the various wikimarkup), and upload when there is internet access(or when the article is suitable to be uploaded.) - Dureo (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You could use the latest version of OpenOffice, which will allow you to create a page as a document, then export it in MediaWiki markup. :-) Stwalkerster talk 11:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Openoffice will show the markup, markedup? As in bold italics formating and such. If so I may have to download it, I usually use Word '07 - Dureo (talk) 11:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Just copy/paste the text in the edit box to any text editor, then save the text/word/whatever file to your computer. The edit box has all the markup. But make sure that when you paste it back into the article, you account for any changes other people have made to it since then. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 16:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] NH Avalanche Hockey

Hello,

Last week I submitted an artile about my local hockey club, but I do not see it in the search. How can I find out where the article went? It was titled "NH Avalanche Hockey".

Thanks, Frank —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.196.54.199 (talk) 12:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Your request to create the article has been declined. See here to know why. -Yamanbaiia (talk) 12:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Using <math> for α in paragraphs

Is there any reason to prefer (<math>\alpha \,</math>) in mathematical or physics articles, rather than α (<math>\alpha</math>) or even the single greek character α? I'm thinking of the Fine-structure constant article, which has many instances of (<math>\alpha \,</math>) in paragraphs, and I can't copy the text in my browser since it renders as PNG. — PhilHibbs | talk 12:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

It sometimes is more appropriate, I guess. The parser can render text in math tags quite poorly, sometimes. As for the character, not all browsers support it by default. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Create pages in other language

How can I translate an existing page to another language?(eg-Malayalam)do i have to install a specific font?--Abhishekjacob (talk) 13:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.7.158 (talk) 12:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC) 59.93.7.158 (talk) 12:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Some might, for example, Chinese on Linux may need a font installed. Do you have any more information, such as the specific language, your browser and operating system? x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

im using windows xp and windows internet explorer. and the language i want is malayalam --Abhishekjacob (talk) 15:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

One way to test your font support is to visit the Malayalam Wikipedia. If it displays OK, then you probably have the font(s) you need.

But while a font may be necessary to display another language, it doesn’t perform any translation. You need a source of content in that language. Perhaps Malayalam Wikipedia is what you want; it contains articles written in Malayalam or already translated from other languages. If you want to translate other articles, perhaps someone could refer you to a translation service. --teb728 t c 19:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Upload picture

How can i upload a picture frn my computer to a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.7.158 (talk) 12:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Image use policy, Wikipedia:Image copyright tags, Wikipedia:Picture tutorial, Wikipedia:Uploading images, Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, and Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload for assistance. Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 12:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Charles Bent (chess) new page.

I started the new page "Charles Bent (chess)" mainly to avoid ambiguity with Charles Bent who was a civil war general. I gave a reference but it doesn't show at the page bottom. I need help to categorize the article: I read the guidelines but really did not understand how to do it. The cathegories should be chess / endgame study / english chess-related people. Thank you, --Gabodon (talk) 13:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The categories Category:Endgame study and Category: English chess-related people do not exist. What are the exact categories? There are similar categories already put in. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I added those categories after it was requested here. I also added the reflist tag. Woodym555 (talk) 16:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

He already has an article at C. M. Bent. They must be merged. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have merged them. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Links and piping

The usual way to display text differing from the name of a linked article is to pipe it e.g. capital of Italy. A way of stopping short or even extracting part of the link's name to be the text shown could be useful.
It so happens that Wikipedia:Piped link uses as an example "Railway station" which were the words causing me to wish for a way of using only part of the link as text.
In List of London railway stations most of maybe 300 stations were linked like this Balham railway station and so each entry in the table was excessively repetitive and deep. I cleaned up the article and changed the links to be like this Balham. The untidiness of the displayed page has been moved by much copying and pasting to the text of the article.
Help:Pipe trick seems not to cover the matter.--SilasW (talk) 14:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Whenever there is repetition one could use a little template, in this case e.g. containing

|-
|[[{{{1}}} railway station|{{{1}}}]]
|[[{{{1|2}}}]]

or a more general [[{{{1}}} {{{2}}}|{{{1}}}]]

Patrick (talk) 14:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Help on Something to Sing about Page!!!

I need some help. When I check back on Something To Sing About page, someone added the notability. What can I do?Bamgermany2000 (talk) 14:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you may read Wikipedia:Notability (films) and try adding the evidence of notability to the article. PeaceNT (talk) 15:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Log in problems

Several years ago I submitted an article titled Risdon Beazley, the article was subsequently deleted by someone as he said that the material had been taken from a website; the website was (and is) mine.

I have tried to log in to resubmit the article, but cannot, I think it may be because I still have an account under the account name Roy Martin or RoyVMartin. I have previously requested a new passport but none has arrived, this may be because I changed my ISP about two years ago and the new password has been sent to the old address.

Can you plaese assist?

Roy Martin

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.92.241 (talk) 16:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

It appears you were Special:Contributions/RoyVMartin. If you cannot remember your password, and you no longer have access to the email address you used for that account, I'm afraid there is no way for you to regain access to the old account. Your best bet is to simple create a new account, and edit with that one. --barneca (talk) 16:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Websites are copyrighted unless otherwise stated. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials if you want to create an article again. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] What qualifies as a current sports-related event?

Given his current performance (he has the potential to set several NFL records this season), would the page on Tom Brady qualify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stismail (talk • contribs) 17:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd say so, make sure to use references if you make any claims in the article. — Rudget _{contributions} 21:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Email Confirmation

I am unable to have Wikipedia send me an email confirmation message. I put my email address (carefully checking it for correct spelling and format) in my Preferences and have used the Confirmation procedure several times, but have not received a confirmation code. Any suggestions how to resolve this? Thanks. DonFB (talk) 17:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Could your spam filter be blocking messages from Wikipedia? --barneca (talk) 18:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I use Mailwasher, which lets me see the subject line, sender, etc. of every message, even those marked as spam. I can change any to 'friend' when necessary. DonFB (talk) 20:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC) I used a Hotmail address and received a Confirmation message instantly. My earlier attempts gave my prodigy.net email address. It appears the Wikipedia software simply will not send an email to the prodigy domain, even though I successfully receive tons of spam at that address. DonFB (talk) 03:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] can not log in

As of Monday morning, I can not seem to log on under bgbrwnteddybear. I did report a scam over the weekend and I hope that the lack of signing on is because of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.130.5 (talk) 19:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

What happens when you try? Are you sure you've remembered your username and password correctly? Do you have Caps Lock on by mistake? Are you even on the right website? There isn't a User:Bgbrwnteddybear on the English Wikipedia (the first letter of a username is case-insensitive); maybe you registered on a different language version of Wikipedia, or a different project, or even a different website altogether? --ais523 19:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Article Submission

We live in the Aboite area and would like to submit a 50th wedding anniversary announcement. How do I go about it?

Thank You, Rd Neumann

First of all, congratulations on your 50th wedding anniversary! May you and your spouse have many more happy years together! Second, as for your question, Wikipedia is really not the appropriate place. You may want to see this, on What Wikipedia is not. If you would like to create an account, we would most definitely appreciate your contributions. However, I would suggest contacting your local newspaper about announcements such as these; the Wikipedia Reference Desk may be able to help you more in this matter. Good luck, and happy anniversary! Regards, Neranei (talk) 20:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] IP user vandalism

This user has vandalized my talk page after I warned him for vandalizing articles. What do we do to help block someone fast who is obviously not trying to edit Wikipedia constructively? --Endless Dan 21:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

If the user has had a final warning, then report them to WP:AIV :-) Stwalkerster talk 21:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I will bookmark that on my user page. The user has now been blocked. --Endless Dan 21:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] question regarding use of publicity photo

I am a bit confused. The new instructions about the use of photos seem to say two different things. The old photo was removed and replaced with a blank that says "Do you own one?" Then when you click on it, it says you have to be the copyright owner. These two sentences do not mean the same thing. I own a copy of a publicity photo of Bruce Payne that I obtained from Rising Star Galleries via EBay. I had always thought that such photos came with implicit permission to use them for reviews, articles or other legitimate purposes. So which is it? May we use this photo or not? [Do I have to produce the receipt? I certainly can. ] If not, don't you think this rule is going a bit too far? This is not a screenshot, after all.

Ariel23 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The sale of such photos does not constitute any kind of waiver of the copyright holder's rights. You own the physical picture, but no grant of reproduction rights accompanies such a purchase. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The point of asking whether you own the copyright is because of Wikipedia's strict fair use policy, which essentially prevents the use of images that are copyrighted where a freely licensed version may be available - such as in the case of a photo of a living person. If you own the copyright to a photo, you can release it under a free license. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] "Proposed" Wikis.

I came across an extensive list of "proposed wikis" last week. I can't seem to locate it through searching or the browser's history.

Can someone please point me in the right directory to this page?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.140.9.230 (talk) 21:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You may have been looking for this? — Rudget _{contributions} 21:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The link wasn't exactly what I was looking for, the page contained a list of 'proposed' wiki sites that would be included in future wikipedia 'umbrella'. Most of the proposed site where in the format wikiසැකිල්ල:Some word. Some of the words included Wikitimescale, Wikicurrency, Wikistamps, Wikihow, Wikireceipe, Wikimaps off hand. Some of the wikis proposed have developed external test sites to 'prove' that this might be a suitable wikipedia in the future.

Thanks in advance.

• Are you sure they were called proposed wikis? WikiHow and the WikiCookbook are external project exactly because they don't fit the sort of things Wikipedia deals with. From your use of the term umbrella, you might be mixing up the terms Wikipedia and Wikimedia. The Cookbook is at WikiBooks. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• I guess you saw http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_projects or http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects. The proposals are not for other "Wikipedias" but for other wikis. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia based on the wiki model. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks the http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_projects was exactly the page I couldn't find. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.140.9.230 (talk) 23:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Fact tag disappearance

In Comcast lead paragraph, one of the fact tags has suddenly disappeared. Could anyone look into it? --Kushal^t 21:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Y කළා - An I.P removed it. — Rudget _{contributions} 21:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. The fact that you left the factbox untouched (from [8] as I discovered later) makes it even more unbelievable. On a lighter note, have you ever considered changing your username to The Flash? lol Thanks once again. --Kushal^t 21:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

It's okay. Why would I do that? :) — Rudget _{contributions} 21:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I just thought about The Flash because of your swift diagnosis and correction of the problem. I would like to add that it was supposed to be a compliment, in case you don't like The flash. --Kushal^t 21:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

That's made me laugh! I mean actually laugh. WP:BARN here we come! — Rudget _{contributions} 21:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] I inserted the name in reverse how do I fix?

I started an article about Lewis Preston, who is an assistant basketball coach for the Florida Gators. The problem is that I inserted Preston Lewis as his name. His correct name is Lewis Preston. How do I correct this in the title. Sircez (talk) 22:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Done by GDonato. For future reference, you can use the "move" tab at the top of each page. However, this only appears when your user account is 4 days old. -- Kateshortforbob 23:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Soliciting a topic

I wonder if there should be a link in the main page of Wikipedia about soliciting a topic to be covered in the Wikipedia. Sometimes (although rarely) I search for something and I don't find any article about it (even after looking for spelling, alternative names, and disambiguation). Maybe people would like seeing the list of subjects and maybe even we could add the simplicity of starting an article on the subject just by clicking the link of the asked for subject, or just link to other article that already covers the information.

An example might be "Garolite". It is surprisingly nobody has written on the popular plastic (as of 11/26/07). I see an article on phenolics but no mention of Garolite, so I am not sure the relationship.

Thank you.

CHC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.174.163.37 (talk) 22:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You can request the article be created at Requested articles, or you can go a step further and write the article yourself and then post it at Articles for creation. NF24^{(radio me!)} 23:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Instant deletion

I recently submitted a entry for the Front Range Bible Institute in Colorado Springs, Colorado that was instantly deleted for a copyright violation. I can not understand what copyright violation occured.

here is the entry I made:

Front Range Bible Institute

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Motto: "Equipping of the saints for the work of ministry" Established 2006 Type: Theological Seminary President: Tim Dane Dean: Jonathan Henderson Faculty: 8 Students: 30 Location Colorado Springs, Colorado, United States Website: http://www.frbible.org/

The Front Range Bible Institute was founded in 2006 by the Austin Bluffs Evangelical Free Church and is located on the campus of Austin Bluffs Evangelical Free Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Doctrinal Beliefs Theologically, The Front Range Bible Institute is conservative and evangelical, affirming biblical inerrancy, “Literal, Grammatical, Historical, Contextual” hermeneutics, the sufficiency of Scripture, Scriptural distinctions between the church and Israel and a futuristic premillennial position in their eschatology. Our Doctrinal Statement [1]. The affirmations contained in the statement of belief specify our teaching position with regard to the major biblical doctrines, and thus provide a framework for curriculum and instruction at the seminary. They also provide an anchor to protect the institution against theological drift. For this reason, members of the board of directors, administration, and faculty members are annually required to sign a statement affirming agreement with this Doctrinal Teaching Statement of Faith. Front Range Bible Institute offers the following options for studies:

Audit: Students can take classes with no other educational prerequisites. Students who audit classes will gain the benefit of all the instruction but not be held accountable for homework or class projects Certificate of Biblical Studies: Students may enroll for our 12-course certificate program (C. B. S.) that gives a broad exposure to biblical content and Christian theology. There are no educational prerequisites for the certificate program. Bachelor of Biblical Studies: The Bachelor of Biblical Studies (B. B. S.) program requires the student to have a high school diploma, GED equivalent or other evidence of high school completion. The Bachelor’s program will consist of 144 credits of instruction (48 courses). Master of Biblical Studies: The Master of Biblical Studies (M. B. S.) program requires the student to already hold a Bachelor’s degree. The Bachelor’s degree does not need to be theological or religious. The Master of Biblical Studies program will consist of 72 credits of instruction (24 courses). Master of Divinity: The Master of Divinity program (M. Div.) is the training program generally seen as standard preparation of men for vocational pastoral/missionary ministry. A Bachelor’s degree is required for entrance to the M. Div. program. The M. Div. program will include the 63 core credits of the M. B. S. program, but also require 54 credits of instruction in the two major biblical languages (27 credits of Old Testament Hebrew and 27 credits of New Testament Greek) and one additional 3 credit elective. If a student does not possess a prior Bachelor’s degree but completes all the requirements of the M. Div. program, the degree will carry the status of Bachelor of Theology. While men and women may enter and complete the Certificate of Biblical Studies, the Bachelor of Biblical Studies, and the Master of Biblical Studies, the M. Div. program is designed to train men only for pastoral/missionary ministry.

Official Web Site, The Front Range Bible Institute The Doctrinal Statement of The Front Range Bible Institute

I do not see any copyright violations... could you help me figure out what I did wrong if anything. I read the submittla guidlines and I can not see any problems —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdfromhb (talk • contribs) 23:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Copying and pasting from a website is strictly disallowed. Please write an article in your own words. NF24^{(radio me!)} 23:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] how doyou makea new article about a current event

i want to make a article about a new multi million dollar school in my area. its the richest highschool in marlyand andi want to be the first to report on it. help....?... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunz\ijji (talk • contribs) 23:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Your first article will be of interest of you. Search first to make sure the article isn't already there; high schools are already well-covered. NF24^{(radio me!)} 23:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Sakis Rouvas article

Dear Ms/Mr,

There was a good article abot Sakis Rouvas not so long ago. But now I wanted to read it again, and I realized, it is re-edited.It is just a short, "it says almost nothing"... Is it it possible, to read the whole article? Besides as I see all the articles are changed. I tell the truth, I do not like it at all. Your website was my favourite info site, but now it is terrible. Can you replace the original article? Or it will be stay the same? Or could you send me via e-mail? Or is there any possibility to reach the old edition?

Thank you for your help.

tomypety —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomypety (talk • contribs) 23:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a vandal got at the article. I've reverted to the last good version. It appears that the article was previously deleted because it was a copyright violation. Is that the "good article" you were talking about? NF24^{(radio me!)} 23:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You can see old versions of Sakis Rouvas by clicking the "history" tab at the top, but there is no longer version. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you have mixed up Sakis Rouvas and Sakis Rouvas discography? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't have access but it actually appears there has been longer Sakis Rouvas versions which were deleted from the article history, maybe because they violated Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] November 27

[සංස්කරණය] Category "abuse"

I don't know the proper etiquette for this situation, i.e. editing another person's user page. User:C0N6R355/Userboxes/cleardanger seems to have placed him or herself in Category:Films based on military fiction. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I frequently edit or comment mainspace categories out from userspace pages with an informative edit summary, but you can also drop a note at User talk:C0N6R355 and edit it out later if there is no reaction. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Peer Review

How would I go about requesting a peer review for an article? The Clawed One (talk) 00:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Peer review. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] Username

I accidentally used the wrong user name for my profile. Do I have to delete my profile and start over or can I change it? If I do have to delete it, where do I do that at?? Thanks . . . .

Asperkourt (talk) 02:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

This is your only edit so just create a new account. Accounts cannot be deleted. The name can be changed but it's easier to create a new account when you haven't edited yet. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

However, should you wish to change your name, you may make a request at WP:CHU. I (talk) 02:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] search

I typed in Boston for the group and got the city. There was no other references or lists for the word Boston. Could this web site be any more confusing or frustrating??? and there is no send button on this stupid page. What a piece of crap this site is! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.120.72 (talk) 03:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps, you didn't see Boston (disambiguation) right at the top before start of the Boston city text. I am sure, if you hang in for some more time in this site, you would perhaps never call it a crap. Anyway, happy browsing. DSachan (talk) 03:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

If you go to the page Boston, you are redirected to Boston, Massachusetts. The first line of the page links you to Boston (disambiguation). A disambiguation page lists multiple uses of the same word and links them to their related Wikipedia articles. This disambiguation page should list the group you're looking for. There are several groups with that name, so just look through the list for the one you want. On a different note, please read Wikipedia's civility policy, and don't insult the people you want to get help from. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Boston redirects to Boston, Massachusetts which at the top says:

Boston (disambiguation) has many links to things called Boston, including Boston (band). If you had clicked the "Search" button below the search box then you would get a list of search results [9] which also includes Boston (band). You apparently found "Save page" which I think is more descriptive for saving changes to an existing wiki page than "Send" would be. "Send" may be more appropriate for systems where you cannot change what has already been written by others. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I may realize your displeasure in not being able to find the article you want but, it's quite rude to make first contact with a person or group of people and insult the fruit of their hobbies, pastimes, or livelihood. Mac Davis (talk) 04:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] A page about my company: wanting to do it by the rules

I've been asked by the engineering firm I work for to start a Wikipedia page. The firm is mentioned several times in various articles across Wikipedia, but as yet there is no active page. I have looked around for Wiki projects to help me but there doesn't really seem to be one for engineering firms. I'm turning to this page to

I respect the principles of Wikipedia and given my COI I would like assistance in "authorising" the article. I of course recognise that it is then open to the editing process.

I have written suggested copy and coded it up on my talk page. I have made an honest attempt to include only facts and no marketing hype. I've also chosen a representative list of clients and projects for the firm that have their own Wikipedia pages.

The suggested page name would be Sinclair_Knight_Merz

Happy to discuss this with anyone via my talk page or here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathardy (talk • contribs) 03:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC) sorry forgot to sign --Mat Hardy (Affentitten) (talk) 03:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I realize Wikipedia might seem confusing at first, (please click on the blue words to read the policy/guide they refer to). Wikipedia is not like other sites you may have come across. First, it is an encyclopedia. What this means, is that it is not MySpace, or FaceBook, or a place to host personal webspace, or a place where editors can make articles about anything they wish. Wikipedia has Core policies, such as neutrality, notability, verifiability, etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Wikipedia must demonstrate notability (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have reliable, third-party sources (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must cite those sources to verify it is true. From those sources, information is summarized, paraphrased, condensed, and worded neutrally to make an encyclopedic entry (information cannot be copied from other sites). Finally, per the conflict of interest guideline, and it is good you recognize that there is a potential COI issue, you would likely be unable to edit the article neutrally. If your company is notable, the chances are it would exist already. If it is notable but does not exist, please consider submitting the entry to articles for creation with the proper sources, neutrally written, so that an uninvolved editor can create it to avoid conflict of interest. I glanced at your talk page, and what is there does not explain why this company is any more notable than the many others that do not have an article here, nor does it cite any reliable third-party sources. Please see the criteria for notability related to companies for further help with this. For more general information, see Wikipedia's manual of style, layout guide, your first article, article development, and how to edit for assistance. Hope that helps, Ariel♥Gold 03:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Despite the clear conflict of interest, I don't think you have made a bad start. At least you came here to ask for advice first before creating the page in the main article space, and then been surprised and annoyed if someone quickly deleted it again. To expand on what user:ArielGold has said above, I think it needs references from reliable 3rd party sources to back up the company's involvement in the major projects mentioned - for example, I'm sure you could track down articles in trade publications or on major UK or Australian newspaper sites mentioning the company's involvement in these projects. You could take a look at other construction industry articles to see how other editors have tackled this. Astronaut (talk) 04:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I think the article you wrote was a good article by Wikipedia's standards, and it only needs some citations or references, and to be stuck in the right categories for the category browsers. Most Wikipedia articles start out much humbler. Make sure when you're leaving a conversational message on Wikipedia to press ~~~~ for a signature and time so we can keep track of things. If you need any more help with anything on Wikipedia you can always ask at the help desk, or me or an administrator on their talk page. Mac Davis (talk) 04:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The article for creation page seems to be on the right track, but it appears to be for new and unregistered users, of which I am neither. Regarding citation, the firm is mentioned repeatedly in the emdia (eg. a factiva search for the last 12 months scores 137 returns for the Australian media alone and that's just for the full company name and not the acronym. Google gives me 150,000 returns. Do I just have to provide a representative slice of such secondary sources? Or do I have to cite each 'fact' that is reported? At present, the company obviously seems notable enough for other parties unknown to me to have written it into other Wikipedia articles. Thanks for the help so far. I feel a bit compromised doing this because I do have another personal Wikipedia life with this same user name. But I'm attempting this article in my work time at an employer's request.--Mat Hardy (Affentitten) (talk) 04:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Some suggestions. 1) It's too long; lose the "representative list of clients" and such like. Mention only the biggest gigs the firm has done, and those only if you can find third-party articles about them. 2) Make use of those other Wikipedia articles that mention this company. Why is it mentioned? That's relevance right there. 3) You need cites/sources for the very facts that make the firm notable: size, unique characteristics (without peacock words) and famous events it was involved in. 4) Omit anything that smacks of bragging, advertisement or special pleading; and anything vanity-stroking, like a roster of executives. 5) Continue on the noble path of full disclosure. 6) Be prepared for folks to have a knee-jerk reaction against the inherent Conflict of Interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] brain teazer

what is 4 L on C —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.130.175 (talk) 06:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[සංස්කරණය] used transparent pet

please let me know how I can sell the transparent which have been used before? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.12.9.2 (talk) 08:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)